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Learning and working with AR solution


I watched your refining video and since this is a hobby of mine I thought I would share some information that might help you on your path. These are all things I learned some from others and some by experimentation but mostly from goldrefining.com and the book by CM Hoke, refining precious metal waste.
You are more than welcome to share this information as you see fit, except for my email please.
A quick word of caution, I see you have good ventilation with your fan but others might not know that the NO and NO2 gas from the nitric acid and Aqua Regia reactions can cause pulmonary edema sometimes delayed by hours. This is bad to really bad, enough about that.
Free advice being worth all you pay, its hard to say what uninvited advice is worth, haha, but here goes.
1. Put your placer in a melting dish and incinerate the gold (heat to red but try not to melt it) this helps to oxidize some of the base metals saving you time and chemicals.
2. Do a boil in 50/50 muriatic acid and distilled water, best method is to sit the beaker in a little bit of sand, I use a ceramic frying pan to hold the sand and beaker in case you brake your beaker or boil over. Your cooker will help cotain the fumes, that rust anything they contact. Heat for 15-30 minutes.
3. Pour through a wetted filter paper and rinse with very hot water, this removes your lead as lead chloride, which is soluable in hot water. This also removes any tin before you introduce your nitric, that's my guess about the white stuff in your video. It's called stannic paste, or stannic acid, most of the other things it's called you can't say in mixed company.
4. Repeat step 1.Put your placer in a melting dish and incinerate the gold (heat to red but try not to melt it) this gets rid of any remaining chlorides, so you don't loose any gold.
5. Rinse your beaker well and make enough 50/50 nitric and distilled water to cover you gold by an inch or more. Remember the "add acid to water rule" heat for 15-30 minutes. This wash water will contain silver. You'll recover that later.
6. Rinse three times with hot water, decanting rinse water and leaving your gold in the beaker.
7. Add all the HCl (muriatic acid) needed to solvate your gold see ratio below.
8. Add 2ml of 3% H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide),this jump starts the production of hydronium in the solution.
9. Heat to around 150*F,
10. Slowly add 25% of the nitric acid, wait for the reaction to slow,
11. Add 25% more, wait for the reaction to slow again.
12. Heat to 190*F, glass candy thermometers work well for this but inferred thermometers are better.
13. Add 25% of the nitric acid and let the reaction slow again.
14. Slowly add only enough of the remaining nitric to dissolve the gold. This step buys you extra gold, so don't rush it.
15. Pour your auric chloride solution through a wetted filter into two volumes of distilled water. As you dilute the solution this will drop any silver as silver chloride and make the solution cloud slightly.
16. Add .5 gram of sulfamic acid crystals (ace hardware) or a couple drops of sulfuric acid if you don't have the sulfamic. Sulfamic Acid will convert any excess nitric acid into Nitrous Oxide and sulfuric acid. Which ever way the sulfuric acid gets into the solution it will drop any lead as lead sulfate. Lead sulfate is insoluble in water and this solution.
17. Let stand overnight to settle, and decant or siphon off your bright, clear, yellow solution. You can filter it if you need to for time but I would start with two wet filters and plan to run the solution through twice, it will go slowly because of the silver chloride. If you have a buchner funnel it's faster.
18. Drop the gold with the SMB like you did in your video.
19. Test and Pour off your now barren solution, save it for now.
20. Rinse your gold mud with hot water, three times
21. Put your gold in a melting dish and incinerate (heat to red but try not to melt it)
22. Boil in 50/50 muriatic acid and water, 15 minutes.
23. Pour into wetted filter rinse with hot water.
24. Place filter with gold in melting dish.
25. Slowly heat with low flame to red, burning away filter paper, then add a pinch of anhydrous borax and melt your now +98% pure gold.
26. The borax will tell you a lot about your gold purity, it will be very clear when your purity is over 99%
27. If you want it to be +99.5% pure, repeat steps 7-22 before melting.
Aqua Regia
Approx 1mL of 70% HNO3 added to 4ml of 30% HCL to dissolve 1g of pure Gold.

Stannic Chloride
You can make your own stannous test solution with a little tin metal; lead free solder, lead free fishing weights or eBay will get you some. Shave the tin into a dropper bottle with muriatic acid, a couple of grams in 10ml of acid. The key is to have a little extra tin in the container to know you have enough. Then just dip a q-tip in your gold solution and put a drop of your stannous on it. It will show purple for gold, the darker the better. It looks black when your lucky. If it turns green or red you have other good news.

Anhydrous Borax
This is the best flux for pure gold, in a pinch though 20 mule team borax works. It will expand ten fold as you heat it up and drive off the water.

Material
If you need Borax or tin, say the word and I can drop a care package in the mail, it would be my pleasure to do so and I have some on hand so no need worry about cost.

Method
The reason for heating the gold to red before melting is to drive off the residual nitrates or chlorides both will volatilize your gold if you don't drive them off before melting.

The reason I said to keep your solution after you drop your gold, is there is a bit of gold left. You mix all your waste solutions together then add a piece of scrap copper. It will drop any silver, gold, and platinum group metals. The precious metals will form as a dark residue on the copper and fall to the bottom. I can help you with those later if you need a hand. After you filter those precious metal residues out, you can use lye to raise the ph to 12 and all the remaining metals will drop as hydroxides, filter those out dry and dispose. Add muriatic to drop ph to 7 and you will have salt water and CO2, I evaporate mine to dry salt in an old crock pot.

I know what you mean about wanting to do it right but getting it done fast. It's like me wanting to be rich and handsome, eh nope, it's not like that at all because you can do this type of refining fast or right, and I'm not rich or handsome, haha.
The big hitters for improvement to what you were doing;
1. Move the sulfuric acid to later in the process after your gold is in solution, so you don't make lead sulfate in the early stages. This will help you a lot, a very small amount of lead will make your gold tend to be brittle and PbSO4 is a pain in the butt to get rid of because it's not soluble like PbCl2
2. Incinerate, Incinerate, incinerate.
This gets rid of organics, like dead seamonsters from the water, the oil from your hands, jet dry, soap you name it. All these things have gold adsorbing carbon in them and will float away with your gold ions in tow.
It also drives off the last acid you were working with, they burn off in this order chlorides, nitrates, then sulfates.
3. Save everything, for now. Things you haven't thought about may become clear later and you don't want to smack yourself in the forehead like me and wish you still have that stuff you threw out.
Remember if gold finds a little copper or iron to precipitate on it looks black! That ain't fair to do that to guys like us, right? So for now any filtrate you catch save in a plastic bottle then when you have a little pile of it, incinerate it and flux it with 2 volumes of borax and a pinch of saltpeter, (KNO3/Potassium nitrate) when you do this the Niter salt oxidizes the base metals to their Oxide state, which bumps the melting temp way up. This makes it easy to suspend the oxide in the molten borax and not alloy with your precious metals. For instance Copper melts at 1984*F, CuO melts 2419*F Tin melts at 450*F Tin oxide 2977*F. So you can see how this helps. These base metal oxides are where the cool color swirls in flux come from.Howdy Ray,

I sorry you had a rough time but, think of it as a way to learn a bunch of hard lessons at once and get them out of the way.

I watched your video and made some notes like we talked about, and even though we spoke about many of these topics I'll list them here for reference.
Where I work we start every meeting off with a safety topic, so here goes:
•Be sure to close your containers between steps, that H2SO4 could be a life changing accident if you knocked it over.
•Use a plastic mortar pan on top of bench to put your beakers, hot plate, and such in to catch spills, boil overs, and drips.
•A bowl of baking soda near by when working with acids would be a great safety aid, you can keep it in a plastic bag between uses.
•last safety note, this time.
Process
•when adding salt to HCl, do it in a separate beaker then pour the acid into the beaker with your gold, leaving any undissolved salt in the beaker.
•10m0s Pour the HCl/gold into a filter, then rinse with very hot water until clear. Cold water will precipitate PbCl (lead chloride)
•put the filter in the dish when you incinerate the gold and burn it away.
•Aqua Regia (AR)it takes 1ml nitric acid and 4 ml HCl to dissolve 1 gram of pure gold.
•18min I think you had used up the HCl so when you were adding nitric it wasn't making AR
•22m24s iron and other base metals can make the yellow color you're asking about.
•23m20s you have excess nitric left, that's why it so reactive.
•24m sorry buddy that sucks, weigh the SMB out, it should only take same weight as your gold. Add it a little at a time with a plastic spoon. When dropping your gold try to have no more that half a beaker full.

The stink comes from sulfur compounds from the excess SMB, but a soak in 5% sulfuric acid should remove all the borax and sulfur.

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Ray,

I did the preliminary test on the material you sent me.I have to figure out how to attach an image so i can send you a screen shot. The results are interesting but far from conclusive. I had a wide variation on readings between the filter and the dust that was loose in the bag. There is a ton of different metals in there, but one thing to know is I can't test for many light elements, like Silicon. So until I complete a few steps, keep in mind that the percentages are of what I can test for, not of the total weight.
The list looks like this:
69% Ag (silver)
13% Au (gold)
Approximately 15% is Tin, Lead, Nickel, Molybdenum
Traces of: Strontium, Tellurium, Zirconium, Lanthanum, Cadmium.

My Plan:
Incinerate material, including filter.
Boil in HCl, repeatedly until I get no color change when adding fresh acid.
Incinerate.
Digest in Hot 50/50 Nitric acid
Rinse in hot Distilled Water.
Digest in AR.
Drop Silver from solution with copper.
Drop Gold with SMB.
Melt both precious metals into beads and weigh.
I will at a minimum photo the steps and if I can try to film them for you.
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                                 code of  virginia

definations. (§ 62.1-10)

As used in this chapter, the following terms shall have the meanings
respectively ascribed to them:

(a) “Water” includes all waters, on the surface and under the
ground, wholly or partially within or bordering the Commonwealth or within its
jurisdiction and which affect the public welfare.

(b) “Beneficial use” means both instream and offstream uses.
Instream beneficial uses include, but are not limited to, the protection of fish
and wildlife habitat, maintenance of waste assimilation, recreation, navigation,
and cultural and aesthetic values. Offstream beneficial uses include, but are
not limited to, domestic (including public water supply), agricultural, electric
power generation, commercial and industrial uses. Public water supply uses for
human consumption shall be considered the highest priority.

HISTORY: Code 1950, § 62-9.1; 1954, c. 330; 1958, c. 413; 1968, c. 659; 1989,
c. 410.

                                 code of virginia

rights of owners to extend to mean low water-mark. (§ 28.2-1202)

A. Subject to the provisions of § 28.2-1200, the limits or bounds of the tracts
of land lying on the bays, rivers, creeks and shores within the jurisdiction of
the Commonwealth, and the rights and privileges of the owners of such lands,
shall extend to the mean low-water mark but no farther, except where a creek or
river, or some part thereof, is comprised within the limits of a lawful survey.

B. For purposes of this section, “lawful survey” means the
boundaries of any land, including submerged lands, held under a special grant or
compact as required by § 28.2-1200, such boundaries having been determined by
generally accepted surveying methods and evidenced by a plat or map thereof
recorded in the circuit court clerk’s office of the county or city in
which the land lies.

HISTORY: Code 1950, § 62-2; 1968, c. 659, § 62.1-2; 1972, c. 865; 1992, c.
836.

                                 code of virginia

definitions. (§ 45.1-180)

The following words and phrases when used in this chapter shall have the
meanings respectively ascribed to them in this section except where the context
clearly requires a different meaning:

(a) Mining. – Means the breaking or disturbing of the surface soil or rock
in order to facilitate or accomplish the extraction or removal of minerals; any
activity constituting all or part of a process for the extraction or removal of
minerals so as to make them suitable for commercial, industrial, or construction
use; but shall not include those aspects of deep mining not having significant
effect on the surface, and shall not include excavation or grading when
conducted solely in aid of on-site farming or construction. Nothing herein shall
apply to mining of coal. This definition shall not include, nor shall this
title, chapter, or section be construed to apply to the process of searching,
prospecting, exploring or investigating for minerals by drilling.

(b) Disturbed land. – The areas from which overburden has been removed in
any mining operation, plus the area covered by the spoil and refuse, plus any
areas used in such mining operation including land used for processing,
stockpiling, and settling ponds.

(c) Overburden. – All of the earth and other material which lie above a
natural deposit of minerals, ores, rock or other solid matter and also other
materials after removal from their natural deposit in the process of mining.

(d) Spoil. – Any overburden or other material removed from its natural
state in the process of mining.

(e) Operator. – Any individual, corporation or corporation officer, firm,
joint venture, partnership, business trust, association, or any other group or
combination acting as a unit, or any legal entity which is engaged in mining.

(f) through (i) [Repealed.]

(j) Mining operation. – Any area included in an approved plan of
operation.

(k) Reclamation. – The restoration or conversion of disturbed land to a
stable condition which minimizes or prevents adverse disruption and the
injurious effects thereof and presents an opportunity for further productive use
if such use is reasonable.

(l) Mineral. – Ore, rock, and any other solid homogeneous crystalline
chemical element or compound that results from the inorganic processes of nature
other than coal.

(m) Division. – The Division of Mined Land Reclamation.

(n) Refuse. – All waste soil, rock, mineral tailings, slimes and other
material directly connected with the mine, cleaning and preparation of
substances mined including all waste material deposited in the permit area from
other sources.

HISTORY: 1968, c. 734; 1972, c. 206; 1974, c. 312; 1977, c. 312; 1984, c. 590.

                                

code of virginia

definitions. (§ 45.1-180)

The following words and phrases when used in this chapter shall have the
meanings respectively ascribed to them in this section except where the context
clearly requires a different meaning:

(a) Mining. – Means the breaking or disturbing of the surface soil or rock
in order to facilitate or accomplish the extraction or removal of minerals; any
activity constituting all or part of a process for the extraction or removal of
minerals so as to make them suitable for commercial, industrial, or construction
use; but shall not include those aspects of deep mining not having significant
effect on the surface, and shall not include excavation or grading when
conducted solely in aid of on-site farming or construction. Nothing herein shall
apply to mining of coal. This definition shall not include, nor shall this
title, chapter, or section be construed to apply to the process of searching,
prospecting, exploring or investigating for minerals by drilling.

(b) Disturbed land. – The areas from which overburden has been removed in
any mining operation, plus the area covered by the spoil and refuse, plus any
areas used in such mining operation including land used for processing,
stockpiling, and settling ponds.

(c) Overburden. – All of the earth and other material which lie above a
natural deposit of minerals, ores, rock or other solid matter and also other
materials after removal from their natural deposit in the process of mining.

(d) Spoil. – Any overburden or other material removed from its natural
state in the process of mining.

(e) Operator. – Any individual, corporation or corporation officer, firm,
joint venture, partnership, business trust, association, or any other group or
combination acting as a unit, or any legal entity which is engaged in mining.

(f) through (i) [Repealed.]

(j) Mining operation. – Any area included in an approved plan of
operation.

(k) Reclamation. – The restoration or conversion of disturbed land to a
stable condition which minimizes or prevents adverse disruption and the
injurious effects thereof and presents an opportunity for further productive use
if such use is reasonable.

(l) Mineral. – Ore, rock, and any other solid homogeneous crystalline
chemical element or compound that results from the inorganic processes of nature
other than coal.

(m) Division. – The Division of Mined Land Reclamation.

(n) Refuse. – All waste soil, rock, mineral tailings, slimes and other
material directly connected with the mine, cleaning and preparation of
substances mined including all waste material deposited in the permit area from
other sources.

HISTORY: 1968, c. 734; 1972, c. 206; 1974, c. 312; 1977, c. 312; 1984, c. 590.

                               

  code of viriginia

ungranted beds,streams, RIVERS, CREEKS AND SHORES OF THE SEA TO REMAIN IN
COMMON. (§ 28.2-1200)

All the beds of the bays, rivers, creeks and the shores of the sea within the
jurisdiction of the Commonwealth, not conveyed by special grant or compact
according to law, shall remain the property of the Commonwealth and may be used
as a common by all the people of the Commonwealth for the purpose of fishing,
fowling, hunting, and taking and catching oysters and other shellfish. No grant
shall be issued by the Librarian of Virginia to pass any estate or interest of
the Commonwealth in any natural oyster bed, rock, or shoal, whether or not it
ebbs bare.

HISTORY: Code 1950, § 62-1; 1960, c. 533; 1968, c. 659, § 62.1-1; 1992, c.
836; 1995, c. 850; 1998, c. 427.


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unlawful use of  sunaques beds; penatilies. (§ 28.2-1203)

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to build, dump, trespass or encroach upon
or over, or take or use any materials from the beds of the bays, ocean, rivers,
streams, or creeks which are the property of the Commonwealth, unless such act
is performed pursuant to a permit issued by the Commission or is necessary for
the following:

   1. Erection of dams, the construction of which has been authorized by proper
   authority;

   2. Uses of subaqueous beds authorized elsewhere in this title;

   3. Construction and maintenance of congressionally approved navigation and
   flood-control projects undertaken by the United States Army Corps of
   Engineers, the United States Coast Guard, or other federal agency authorized
   by Congress to regulate navigation, navigable waters, or flood control;

   4. Construction of piers, docks, marine terminals, and port facilities owned
   or leased by or to the Commonwealth or any of its political subdivisions;

   5. Except as provided in subsection D of § 28.2-1205, placement of private
   piers for noncommercial purposes by owners of the riparian lands in the waters
   opposite those lands, provided that (i) the piers do not extend beyond the
   navigation line or private pier lines established by the Commission or the
   United States Army Corps of Engineers, (ii) the piers do not exceed six feet
   in width and finger piers do not exceed five feet in width, (iii) any L or T
   head platforms and appurtenant floating docking platforms do not exceed, in
   the aggregate, 400 square feet, (iv) if prohibited by local ordinance
   open-sided shelter roofs or gazebo-type structures shall not be placed on
   platforms as described in clause (iii), but may be placed on such platforms if
   not prohibited by local ordinance, and (v) the piers are determined not to be
   a navigational hazard by the Commission. Subject to any applicable local
   ordinances, such piers may include an attached boat lift and an open-sided
   roof designed to shelter a single boat slip or boat lift. In cases in which
   open-sided roofs designed to shelter a single boat, boat slip or boat lift
   will exceed 700 square feet in coverage or the open-sided shelter roofs or
   gazebo structures exceed 400 square feet, and in cases in which an adjoining
   property owner objects to a proposed roof structure, permits shall be required
   as provided in § 28.2-1204;

   6. Agricultural, horticultural or silvicultural irrigation on riparian lands
   or the watering of animals on riparian lands, provided that (i) no permanent
   structure is placed on or over the subaqueous bed, (ii) the person withdrawing
   water complies with requirements administered by the Department of
   Environmental Quality under Title 62.1, and (iii) the activity is conducted
   without adverse impacts to instream beneficial uses as defined in § 62.1-10;
   or

   7. Recreational gold mining, provided that (i) a man-portable suction dredge
   no larger than four inches in diameter is used, (ii) rights of riparian
   property owners are not affected, (iii) the activity is conducted without
   adverse impacts to instream beneficial uses as defined in § 62.1-10, (iv) the
   activity is conducted without adverse impacts to underwater historic
   properties and related objects as defined in § 10.1-2214, and (v) the
   activity is not defined as mining in § 45.1-180.

B. A violation of this section is a Class 1 misdemeanor.

HISTORY: Code 1950, § 62-2.1; 1960, c. 600; 1962, c. 637; 1966, c. 641; 1968,
c. 659, § 62.1-3; 1970, c. 621; 1972, c. 866; 1973, cc. 23, 361; 1974, cc. 92,
385; 1975, c. 431; 1976, c. 579; 1980, c. 253; 1982, c. 102; 1988, c. 868; 1992,
c. 836; 1998, c. 605; 2000, c. 167; 2001, c. 234; 2003, c. 973; 2006, c. 507;
2007, c. 25.

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HB735: Bottomlands, submerged; posting of claim.


  HB735

HOUSE BILL NO. 735

Offered January 8, 2014

Prefiled January 7, 2014
A BILL to amend and reenact § 28.2-1200 of the Code of Virginia, relating to
bottomlands conveyed by special grant; trespass; posting.
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Patron-- Lingamfelter

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Committee Referral Pending

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Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

1. That § 28.2-1200 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows:

§ 28.2-1200. Ungranted beds of bays, rivers, creeks and shores of the sea to
remain in common; grant claims to be posted.

A. All the beds of the bays, rivers, creeks and the shores of the sea within the
jurisdiction of the Commonwealth, not conveyed by special grant or compact
according to law, shall remain the property of the Commonwealth and may be used
as a common by all the people of the Commonwealth for the purpose of fishing,
fowling, hunting, and taking and catching oysters and other shellfish. No grant
shall be issued by the Librarian of Virginia to pass any estate or interest of
the Commonwealth in any natural oyster bed, rock, or shoal, whether or not it
ebbs bare.

B. Any property owner who claims a right in a bed of a river or creek within the
jurisdiction of the Commonwealth and posts that property against trespass shall
also indicate on that post the page citation and the courthouse, government
agency, or other public repository where the special grant for that specific
property claim is of record.


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Fisheries and Habitat of the Tidal Waters ? Submerged Lands ? Ungranted beds of
bays, rivers, creeks and shores of the sea to remain in common.


Fisheries and Habitat of the Tidal Waters ? Submerged Lands ? Ungranted beds of
bays, rivers, creeks and shores of the sea to remain in common.

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foundry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnNnoEKyrC4

you should watch all 3 on the burner

burner page 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA4yI_twYRI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsobLmrOfxo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1VF_iVQmM0

reason I got this one in here is remember copper and gold melt at about the same point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHf9TQ_VApg

here goes one for a mini arc/electric arc furnace still playing with it but I got it working somewhat :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTzKIs19eZE

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New Mexico or Bust (Bust It Is)

Well, our trip to New Mexico January 3rd to prospect the desert for some gold didn't go as planned. Doc had helped me get the Gold Hog Mini all setup as a recirculate system, but we never got to use it. About 400 miles from Houston, Texas in a small town located on I-10 West a strong crosswind hit us and flipped the toy hauler and our truck over on it's side. The toy hauler pretty much disintegrated on impact and I had prospecting equipment all over the side of the freeway. Somehow the trailer swung around and hit the side of the truck and we went spinning down the freeway and ended up facing the oncoming traffic. Lucky for us an 18 wheeler behind us saw what was happening and was able to stop in time and keep others from hitting us as well. I was able to recovery all the major items except the Generator and the Wagon which were damaged beyond repair. The insurance companies have totaled the toy hauler and the GMC Truck. Claudia will be getting a newish truck and as far as the trailer - NO MORE TOWING TRAILERS FOR US - back to tent camping, lol. We were able to walk away with only a few scratches and sore bodies. I have enclosed some pictures of crash scene for your enjoyment, lol.
Guy and Claudia10493356656?profile=original10493356681?profile=original

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these will be all the letters I have received on this , I hope this will answer anyone's questions on this issue. and sorry for the length of it but wanted them all in here.  I WOULD SUGGEST TO COPY AND PRINT THIS TO HAVE WITH YOU WHILE OUT IN MARYLAND JUST IN CASE!!

we are allowed to prospect using detectors, sluice, high bankers and dredges. but permission and land usage has to be given by the property owners.


On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Paul C <paulconroy68@yahoo.com> wrote:
good evening Mrs/Ms Hoerger,

I have been trying to find some information for recreational prospecting in Maryland and the laws governing its equipment that can or cant be used as well as its policies. now I have gone thru the natural resource police website, dcnr, epa , and several other government agency websites and several dozen private/group websites. and unfortunately I cant not find information on this topic that is reliable or it just is not there. if you could be so kind could you please point me into the right direction to try to receive the correct information on this issue; it would be greatly appreciated. for there is too many misnomers out there and I would like to get it straight from the horses mouth so to speak to make sure that there would be no problem enjoying this hobby, the outdoors, and time together spent with the friendship that goes along with this. for you will find many of us are great stewards of the areas we visit, for not only do we go prospecting but we also hunt, fish, go camping, etc. in the same areas, and many of us live in this same area or have friends that do.

sincerely,

Paul J Conroy Sr 172 David Lane Somerset,P.A. 15501 814-443-1193 PaulConroy68@yahoo.com
Mr. Conroy,
I have received your inquiry and will determine who within DNR would be the best contact for the information you want.  I will be back in touch with you when I have identified the appropriate point of contact.

LT Colonel Robert K. (Ken) Ziegler, Jr.
Acting Superintendent
Maryland Natural Resources Police
580 Taylor Ave.
Annapolis, MD 21401
410-260-8887 Office
443-510-3069 Cell

Good Morning Mr. Conroy,

I am unaware if the State of Maryland has laws governing this activity whether it be on private or State-owned lands.  I will check with my colleagues at the Maryland Department of Natural Resources to see if this activity is permitted on public lands, and if so, what restrictions, if any exist.
I hope to get this information to you as soon as I can.  Stay tuned.  

Take care!
Lisa
Sincerely,
Lisa A. Hoerger
Regulations and Mapping Coordinator
Critical Area Commission for the
  Chesapeake and Atlantic Coastal Bays
1804 West Street, Suite 100
Annapolis, Maryland 21401
(410) 260-3478
Mr. Conroy,
So far I have contacted three State agencies for information about recreational prospecting.  The Maryland Department of the Environment (Mining Division), the Maryland Department of Natural Resources (Parks), and the Maryland Geological Survey.
The Maryland Park Service has responded with the following information:
Recreational prospecting is not allowed. Most of "collecting of things" requires a permit. A Minimal Impact Use Agreement is used as a "permit" to allow for scientific research. Exceptions to the permit requirement are very minor things like kids picking blackberries or collecting leaves/acorns for personal use. They would work directly with the Park Manager for authorization.
As soon as I receive feedback from the other agencies, I will pass along that information.  
In the meantime, you may be interested in looking at the Maryland Geological Survey's website,  http://www.mgs.md.gov/.  It includes a wealth of information about Maryland's geological resources.
Lisa 

Sincerely,
Lisa A. Hoerger
Regulations and Mapping Coordinator
Critical Area Commission for the
  Chesapeake and Atlantic Coastal Bays
1804 West Street, Suite 100
Annapolis, Maryland 21401
(410) 260-3478
Mr.  Conroy,
 
Here is the response from the Maryland  Geological Survey. 
 
Dear Ms. Hoerger:
 
Maryland law prohibits the collection, destruction, and/or disturbance of all natural resourcesr (flora, fauna, rocks, minerals, soils, caves, archeological/historical sites and artifacts) on State owned lands: State parks, protected environmental areas, and wildlife refuges  There are additional State laws pertaining to caves and archeological sites in the State.  There are no State laws governing recreational collecting on privately owned lands other than trespassing laws.  Arrangements to collect on private property are made between the landowner and the collector.
 
Sincerely,
 
 
D.W. Shelton
MGS
 
 
 

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Lisa Hoerger -DNR-<lisa.hoerger@maryland.gov> wrote:
Dale,
 
I received an email inquiry from a customer about recreational prospecting in Maryland.
 
Do you know if there are any laws or regulations about this activity on State lands?  
 
Any other information you have would be great.
 
Thank you!
 
Lisa

Sincerely,
 
Lisa A. Hoerger
Regulations and Mapping Coordinator
Critical Area Commission for the
  Chesapeake and Atlantic Coastal Bays

Hello Mr. Conroy,

I have received your inquiry about prospecting in Maryland’s State Parks and am answering on behalf of Lt. Col. Robert Ziegler of the Natural Resources Police. The information regarding your request can be found on the following link

http://dnr2.maryland.gov/Publiclands/Pages/MetalDetecting.aspx

Beyond the regulatory piece of the answer listed in the link above, the spirit of the law is that these regulations are intended to help us protect and preserve the natural resources of the State Parks, so that future generations will find places that reflect nature in its most original and intact form. 

The policy covers the use of metal detectors in our parks. Some parks do allow metal detecting on site (beach parks) during specific seasons and hours. Each State Park will address the specific use of metal detectors on their websites. The following link will provide you with a map of all Maryland State Parks.

http://dnr2.maryland.gov/Publiclands/Pages/parkmap.aspx

 

We hope that you can continue to enjoy our Parks in the New Year and please let me know if I can answer any more of your questions. Thank you for taking the time to check on our policy. 

 

Regards,

Ranger Alison Woodfield

Maryland Park Service
580 Taylor Avenue E-3
Annapolis, Maryland 21401
410-260-8167
Lisa/Mr. Conroy-
You would not need any approvals from the MDE Mining Program but you would need permission from the property owner (in a State Park that would be DNR).  If the disturbance is minimal that should cover you otherwise you might need a waterway construction permit though the MDE Wetlands and waterways Program but from your description that seems unlikely.  
Thank you for your inquiry and happy prospecting!

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Lisa Hoerger -DNR- <lisa.hoerger@maryland.gov> wrote:
Molly,
Here is the response from Mr. Conroy concerning what he wants to prospect.  I'm not sure if MDE's regulations cover this type as opposed to more commercial operations.  I did correspond with DNR as far as what is permitted in the parks and they said this activity is not allowed, although DNR does give our special use permits on a case by case basis for educational purposes (school children collected acorns, leaves, etc.)
If you know of any information that is relevant to this activity, let me know.
Thank you very much!
Lisa

Sincerely,
Lisa A. Hoerger
Regulations and Mapping Coordinator
Critical Area Commission for the
  Chesapeake and Atlantic Coastal Bays
1804 West Street, Suite 100
Annapolis, Maryland 21401
Thank you!  I am waiting on a response from the Maryland Department of the Environment.  Once we determine if your type of activity is regulated then I can point you in the right direction.
Lisa

Sincerely,
Lisa A. Hoerger
Regulations and Mapping Coordinator
Critical Area Commission for the
  Chesapeake and Atlantic Coastal Bays
1804 West Street, Suite 100
Annapolis, Maryland 21401
(410) 260-3478
Thank you Molly for your quick response.
Mr. Conroy, 
If you still wish to pursue State lands, you can find contact information on the Department of Natural Resources website at
Lisa

Sincerely,
Lisa A. Hoerger
Regulations and Mapping Coordinator
Critical Area Commission for the
  Chesapeake and Atlantic Coastal Bays
1804 West Street, Suite 100
Annapolis, Maryland 21401
(410) 260-3478
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