http://www.goldgold.com/legal/SB765actionalert_1.htm

 

Okay fellers, you can click on the shortcut above and go to Dave McCrackens website of goldgold.com to help fight this crap. What I did was copy and paste his entire letter verbatum but at the top I added how much I personally spent in Oregon last year, versus the amount of gold I actually removed. No-one says you have to do it like that but remember you get more flies with sugar than you do with vinegar, especially since we know flies are senators and the lies they tell are vinegar, lol and let's face it, not all of us can express ourselves in the language of the law. Lets keep it clean and voice our opposition of this wrongful prejudicial treatment of out of state dredgers. You don't neccessarily have to be a dredger of Oregon but remember  your children may want to follow in your footsteps and where will you leave them to dredge or prospect if our rights are hindered or are in fact removed from venue? We owe it to the prospectors of today and the future prospectors of tomorrow to remove these insane representatives of our government! Did our forefathers stand alone? Do we stand alone? I fought to allow clowns into office and by God I will fight to remove them and their inane bills that enforce prejudice and discrimination against any minority. And we are a minority, let me make that plain, we are a minority, but are we a minority of men women and families that are to be ignored by our own politicians in office? Look around you, the prospector you have been standing next to in that cold stream, enjoying the bounty that our freedoms and nationality itself have endured in the time of pain, stress, duress and poverty, is no longer with you because he can no longer afford his simple life, the restrictions placed on it by uncaring politicians that we helped to destroy his rights. Simply by not voicing ourselves as a group, a hard working, pro-American group of voters that would not stop a politician with his own agenda, not one of his constituants but likely the big business atheists who would continue to drag us down to their level. Don't accept the "big boot" on your backside, voice yourself now! Study the face of a determined American hero. This picture was captured by the New York Times just last year. His words and actions were distorted and he was made to feel alienated by an uncaring public. A simple man doing a simple job just to simply survive.  ~desertrat

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  • I put it in the right section
  • Actually this is a political Discussion and does not belong in the classified section. I come to the classified section to look for equipment, not to hear arguments about CA miners going to OR to mine.  Take the political post to that section.
    • My apologies Ted, I did not know it was in the classifieds. I thought I had it in the correct section when I loaded it. I don't want to take up space and aggravate any of the good people on this site. Tim says he has posted it to the correct section, so that should solve any problems. Again, I apologise. Good Hunting. ~desertrat
      • Hmmm.  Is that right?     Im sure the heading said Oregon dredgers bill... etc. 
        Well appologies for sure!   I will go look again and be sure to post in the proper area..  even if following a discussion !
  • Last word was that we did kill this initiative.   It of course could be quitely and rapidly brought back alive so we need to watch it carefully !!

     

    Now we need to help our southern neighbors,   California needs us to lend them a hand !   

    • Just remember the "Picket Fence Concept".       Every picket is a battle.      Everyone needs to stand united and stand up in support of public land access/use.       Those in opposition to Mining will use any/many means to stop it.     So the battle continues.        As individuals we can work to combat those that oppose mining in different ways as well.       Just got to keep fighting for our rights/freedoms....guess it is never ending.

      If I give thought to "the right to bear arms"   and the NRA   It is obvious that such battles are endless.  I would like to have a better understanding of how the Oregon Initiative went down (got defeated).....the method worked.      I would imagine every politician had their own reasons......and it would appear that many people have opinions on the matter.   

      Oregon has had regulations on dredging for quite some time.  I thought Calif. regs might copy some of Oregon's regs.  Then Calif. might even make theirs more restrictive.  Then Oregon may copy some of the Calif. regs and then Wash may copy some of both and so on and on and on.  A picket at a time.   Then of course there are States that allow no dredging.  I think my point is obvious.  Just keep fighting...the battle is endless.  

      • Thanks.   Yes that is a good reminder,  we should always remain vigilant !!

         

        I like to do the PR bit as well,   promote the pro-environmental side of our work.    I save all lead taken from my pan,  and dont miss an opportunity to show it off ....    I also tell of how the fish love to come to an area just cleaned by a dredge.     I also have pictures of trash thrown out at my claim site,   and mention how much work it has taken to remove it.     I dont know if "environmentalists" dumped it or not,  but since folks ripped down my posted markers,  I think so.   

        Anyhow,  my point is that we, as a group, do need to be good stewards of the land,  and good examples for our neighbors.    It will help our cause as much as fighting a bill or issue.

         

         

        • Amen, Robin and Brian, Amen!
  • I agree wholeheartedly that what is going on in the State legislatures is wrong. What I do not agree on is the approach being used by a very small group, perhaps less than a thousand, to try and stop what is happening. Anyone that sends an email to a politician in Oregon - AND DOES NOT LIVE THERE - is just urinating into the wind, period.  Unless and until the big mining companies bring their money and influence into the statehouses on behalf of recreational gold miners and the hobby, we have very little chance of changing any lawmaker's minds. In Arizona, we have been working WITH the largest mining company in the state, to try and use education and public relations to paint small scale gold mining - as well as recreational gold prospecting, in a good light. California gold prospectors brought this down on everybody - in my opinion. This is about money, not rights.  Think I'm wrong? What has all the money we sent to PLP bought us? Now ask PLP what all that money has done for them and their lawyer.  It's OK to be angry, just get angry at the right people. And if you want to change what is going on politically then you are going to have to start building coallitions. Individuals sending angry emails is a yawn - Terry
    • Wait! I can't stop ranting.. OK, here it is. I think we have already lost this battle - for the time being. We must look to a new Administration in Washington DC, and most importantly, we must adopt the very same stratagies being used to turn the public tide against gold prospecting and dredging. More positive grade school education experiences and demonstrations at the elementary and high school in your city - positive news stories about the rewards of outdoor living - Land Conservation projects dreamed up and pulled off by volunteer gold prospectors - AND an organized State and Federal Lobby, financed by Mr. Keene, Minelab, Garrett, Whites, Fishers, etc., etc., etc. Didn't they all give to PLP? How's that workin' for ya?  On a personal note Dan, I'm from Phoenix. Went to Alhambra High School, and ASU. Hitchhiked to New York after I got out of the Army in 1976. Screwed up, got in the wrong car, woke up with 5-kids! - Terry http://www.TerrySoloman.com
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