Miner's News11/03/2009
California suction dredging update: Scoping meetings scheduled; Notice of Preparation/Initial Study released
The California Department of Fish & Game announced that three public scoping meetings will provide an opportunity for miners and other interested parties to provide comments on the suction dredge permitting program, and the Notice of Preparation/Intitial Study has been released for review.
Three meetings have been scheduled:
•Fresno: Monday, November 16, 5pm, at the California Retired Teachers Association Building, 3930 E. Saginaw Way, Fresno, CA 93726
•Sacramento: Tuesday, November 17, 5pm, at the City of West Sacramento Galleria, 1110 West Capitol Ave., West Sacramento, CA 95691
•Redding: Wednesday, November 18, 5pm, at the Shasta Senior Nutrition Program Center, 100 Mercy Oaks Dr., Redding, CA 96003
Written comments must be postmarked by December 3, 2009, and may be submitted by email: dfgsuctiondredge@dfg.ca.gov
Or by regular mail:
Mark Stopher
California Department of Fish and Game
601 Locust Street
Redding, CA 96001
The Notice of Preparation/Intitial Study is available here: Notice of Preparation/Initial Study (2Mb pdf file, 115 pages)
(If the above link does not work, go to www.icmj.com and look in the Recent News section.)
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO INTERESTED MINERS, PROSPECTORS, CLUBS, ASSOCIATIONS AND MINING-RELATED BUSINESSES.
Sincerely,
Scott Harn
Editor/Publisher
ICMJ's Prospecting and Mining Journal
PO Box 2260
Aptos, CA 95001
831 479-1500
www.icmj.com
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Check out whats happening in Oregon, they need your help !!! This kind of micromanaging and restricting open access has nearly killed small recreational mining in CA ! Next is Oregon then YOUR STATE!!!!
written comments to mark stofer,cdfg must be postmarked tommorrow 12-3, to be considered.claim owners/permitees should definitely do so.(exhaustion of administrive remedies)should plp prevail in federal court,it will help in a possible class action suit.can only hope.reply to the redding address listed above.(mark stofer)
andrew hall > andrew hallFebruary 26, 2010 at 4:49pm
hello peeps! well,good day to wear some black.first off,its johny cash's birthday.try out xm radio #12 outlaw country.second,yesterday federal jurist,judge england,tossed out(dismissed)the plp vs cali federal suit.he said state court the proper venue.plp jerry hobbs had taken the more direct approach,starting at federal court,as cali waived immunity from federal suit,by claiming state sovereinity.from the constitutional standpoint,he is certainly correct.when cali became a state,the charter decreed that federal(public) lands would be under federal laws.such as the 1872 mining law.which sb670 ignores completely.visit golddredger.com,political thread for more direct info.good luck.from r.o.t. republic of trinity,u.s.a.
OK everyone needs to send in their feelings on this.
I just spent 5 hours reading this document and if California gets away with this we are all in trouble.
We the dredgers local and visitors number only 4000, by California numbers, but someone is spending a lot to keep us out!
Dredgers make up .0041 percent (41 thousandth) of a percent of the population, yet in the they say we make an extreme impact on the environment. But in the law enforcement issue of impact the police have only been called on a dredger a half of one percent in the localities that dredging, is carried out and WE ARE THEN AN INSIGNIFICANT amount!
Their whole argument against dredging is full of a new species MAY, might, could can and might arguments NO Science just speculation.
After reading the document from CAL Fish and Wildlife. The big issue seems to be a few bitching canoeist who found a dredger in their way!
I am in California now I am going to all three public meetings just to make my voice heard.....
PLEASE USE the email to send your comments for the record even if you do not dredge.
Go to the ICMJ link and help us all out.
My biggest questions are…..
WHY can the state of California make laws for use of Federal Lands?
BLM, Forest service has their rules and California only references state statutes for state lands to enforce the dredge permit issue.
If the environment, fish insects and wild life are so troubled why not do something about the MAJOR corporations that raped the landscape and left hundreds of leach ponds of arsenic poisoned waters all over the state, killing thousands of birds and deer? My opinion is the pretty boys and girls do not take their canoes there, so we only see and bitch what we see one day a year when they venture out into nature.
Dennis Wellington
andrew hall > Dennis WellingtonNovember 5, 2009 at 5:42pm
dennis, an answer to one of your questions,state law (i.e. sb670) cannot supersede federal law,especially on federal land(mining claims).670 will be federally repealed,question is,will dfg issue permits.oh well, back in the water at the season opener,at the previously state allowed date and time,whitch would not interfere with fish spawning.the dredging seasons for each area as already designated,are perfectly adequate.and were designed to specifically protect andramous fish spawning.we must prevail at federal level.but state politics seem crazy right now.the judge in alameda county ca. has stated that she will modify the injunction wording in any way necessary to prevent dfg from issuing new permits,regardless of federal decree.so, am shopping for throw away dredges,to use next year.most of us will work this year,regardless.best of luck.
andrew hall > andrew hallNovember 5, 2009 at 6:08pm
there may have been a canoe incident, as described,but my best sources all say that new 49ers on the klamath/salmon alienated/pissed off the karuk indians,by interfering with a religous ceremony.research this yourself, cuz am not taking sides on this one,(infighting) there is another side to the story.what is known however,indian casino money just went in huge quantities to sacramento.and lo and behold,arnold,who veto d all such previous bills,reversed himself and signed 670. money talks.daily do i thank the stars that my mining claims are all on blm(dept.interior) and not on fs (dept. agriculture) for while blm officially regulates mining laws on both, fs has there own rules regarding plans and notices.especially regarding occupancy of claims,regardless of operational necesicity.BTW i live and mine on the trinity river,a tributary of the klamath (big K ) this is all close to home for me,the bulk of the karuk tribe think we have been wronged.just my 2 cents.
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Check out whats happening in Oregon, they need your help !!! This kind of micromanaging and restricting open access has nearly killed small recreational mining in CA ! Next is Oregon then YOUR STATE!!!!
Check out: http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000660792882 (or search for Kerby Jackson).
We do need your help !!
I just spent 5 hours reading this document and if California gets away with this we are all in trouble.
We the dredgers local and visitors number only 4000, by California numbers, but someone is spending a lot to keep us out!
Dredgers make up .0041 percent (41 thousandth) of a percent of the population, yet in the they say we make an extreme impact on the environment. But in the law enforcement issue of impact the police have only been called on a dredger a half of one percent in the localities that dredging, is carried out and WE ARE THEN AN INSIGNIFICANT amount!
Their whole argument against dredging is full of a new species MAY, might, could can and might arguments NO Science just speculation.
After reading the document from CAL Fish and Wildlife. The big issue seems to be a few bitching canoeist who found a dredger in their way!
I am in California now I am going to all three public meetings just to make my voice heard.....
PLEASE USE the email to send your comments for the record even if you do not dredge.
Go to the ICMJ link and help us all out.
My biggest questions are…..
WHY can the state of California make laws for use of Federal Lands?
BLM, Forest service has their rules and California only references state statutes for state lands to enforce the dredge permit issue.
If the environment, fish insects and wild life are so troubled why not do something about the MAJOR corporations that raped the landscape and left hundreds of leach ponds of arsenic poisoned waters all over the state, killing thousands of birds and deer? My opinion is the pretty boys and girls do not take their canoes there, so we only see and bitch what we see one day a year when they venture out into nature.
Dennis Wellington